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I’m expecting some volatility very soon.

It’s been way too calm in the markets for way too long. It’s summer, after all, so you have to expect that kind of action—flat. Summers are always like that.

However, we’re at an inflection point across currencies and US indices and I expect a turn, likely this coming week.

Since early July, I’ve been talking about this ending diagonal taking shape. It’s the only Elliott wave pattern that makes any sense at this point. We’re definitely in a triangle of some sort. We’ve completed a fourth wave, and are in the fifth and final wave, so by a process of elimination, that leaves an ending diagonal (triangles are fourth waves, but we’ve already completed the fourth wave). Ending diagonals are fifth wave triangle patterns that are rare but mark the final end of a trend.

In the Elliott Wave Principle, Frost and Prechter described ending diagonals, “indicate exhaustion of the larger movement.”

This week, I put us at the top of the first wave of that pattern, which predicts a large downturn is imminent. I would also expect some sort of financial event to coincide with that turn.

On Friday, August 5, EWI came out with their latest monthly financial report in which they stated,

“Large speculators have held big positions at various times curing the DOW’s advance since 2009, but their current holdings are by far the largest since the e-mini contract was first launched in in the late 1990s.

This information supports a major top not far off.

Events follow the markets, not the other way around. I believe that the markets are a mathematical representation of the “mood of the herd.” At certain points, the herd (the masses) reaches a psychological turning point and create an event to mark a turn in mood. But that event doesn’t turn the market. The market is already at the turning point. The Elliott wave principle tells us that by the culmination of a pattern, or a major wave.

We’re at that top of a major wave. The subwave structure of both the emini futures and the SP500 tell us that a turn is imminent. I expect an event to mark that turn.

The media pundits and financial mavens will point to the event as the cause of the turn, but we’ll be out in front, expecting it either because the waves forecast it, or a particular cycle turn date dictates it.

There are a series of charts below that are pointing to this turn as being imminent.

On another note, looking at the bigger picture (a major top that’s been building for the past 500 years), I’m fascinated by what I see happening throughout society. It takes me back to the work I continue to do relating to Dr. Raymond Wheeler, in his description of the psychological traits of society at the turn from a warm dry climate to a cold climate (the first part of which, will be wet—hence the floods across the world that he predicted starting about the year 2000).

Being primarily a psychologist, he was most interested in how society changed at peaks and valleys of climate change. We’re currently moving from a warm dry-climate to a cold-wet climate (initially) and then a cold-dry extended period.

As we move from warm-dry to colder temperatures, we experience extreme climate and a period of flooding, but more importantly, perhaps, are the influences on how we think.

Traits of warm-dry moving to colder climate:

  • decadence (and a general frustration with it as climate turns colder)
  • cultural and economic collapse
  • rise of the masses against the establishment
  • migrations
  • anarchy
  • persecution of minorities (usually sanctioned by governments)
  • poor leaders
  • epicurean lifestyles, living by superficial or skeptical philisophies
  • race riots and civil wars
  • less concern for human life, individualism
  • sabotage, fraud, scams
  • low birth rates
  • epidemics (start to show up as we turn colder)

More about this as we move on, but the point is that at the top market, there is a major turn in the way the masses think. It’s the underlying cause of collapse.

Another theme is the conspiracy by the financial elite to control the world through the international banking system, which is underway. Money and finance (the rise of the merchants, going back to the Bible) runs in parallel with the culmination of a warm-dry phase. The good news is that it cannot win out. Society will cleanse itself of all the ills over the coming collapse and eventually, we’ll move to a more democratic society overall. That’s the good news, although it will happen slowly, it’s thrilling for me to see the start of the turn.

Natural cycles always win out in the end.

 

SP500bigpictureAug15

Above is the daily chart of the SP500 showing the bigger picture. The final wave up to our current position is in 3 waves, after completing a fourth wave, so the only Elliott Wave pattern left that fits what description is and ending diagonal. We’re at the top of wave 1, getting ready to turn down.

NDXAug8

Above is a daily chart of the NDX (Nasdaq). As well as the DOW, this pattern also is looking like a very large ending diagonal. If that’s the case, we may get one very large 2nd wave down and then a final 3rd, 4th, and 5th wave up to a top. Ending diagonal subwaves are all in 3’s.

EURUSDwideAug15

Here’s the daily chart of EURUSD showing the ongoing triangle—the major (combination—a flat and a triangle) corrective pattern we’ve been in since March, 2014. We’re in the final stages of a bearish triangle formation, with one more leg up to go to finish the E wave. I’ve widened the triangle here to leave a distance between yellow D and E of .618 X the distance between waves A and B (not shown here), which is the typical wave E length.

Although this currency pair has been “all over the place,” I still believe it should continue to drop to the 1.0870 level and then I suspect when we finish wave E of the expanding triangle in the US indices, we’ll turn up in the final E wave of the triangle. The chart below takes a closer look.

EURUSD should eventually turn down after finishing the E wave in tandem with the US equities.

USDJPYAug15

Above is the daily chart of USDJPY showing the imminent double bottom. This forecasts a major inflection point for other major indices, particularly GBPJPY and GBPUSD, which both are almost at fibonacci targets and due for a 62%b retrace. When USDJPY turns, it should result in a major bottom and bring about a five wave climb to a new high above 125.85.

GBPJPYAug15

Above if the daily chart of GBPJPY showing a possible bottom of a motive first wave down. GBPUSD is also at a potential bottom, both looking for turn up for a good swing trade to the 62% retrace level. In this case the target would be the horizontal line at ~170.46.

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  • valley August 14, 2016, 4:16 pm

    Thanks, Peter Temple and Worldcyclesinstitute.com for the elliot wave analysis! Very good site to learn about elliot wave, will continue to read your commentary to become more knowledgeable about EW. Along the lines of cold climate it snowed in Hong Kong region last winter which hasn’t happened in many decades.

    My Saturn in Sagitarrius mania hypothesis (late 20’s, mid late 50’s, mid 80’s) (29.5 year cycle) makes it difficult to discount an irrational exuberant rally of broad markets over the next year especially given ZIRP and central bank replacement of bond assets with equity assets. However, I am not a unidirectional trader and swing trade based upon Lunar/Seasonal data so even if market has la-la land in store, my equity curve may not suffer. =)

  • Ellen August 14, 2016, 6:35 pm

    On the traits moving into colder: curious as to where religion plays out, an even greater move into humanism/secularism/atheism or after so much upheaval, a swing back to fundamentalism?

    • Steve August 15, 2016, 12:20 am

      Ellen, Interesting question.
      I believe Peter is 100% correct in his cutting edge analysis. I believe that one of the implications of this analysis is that people will realize that governments, by assuming more control and decisions of peoples lives, are not able to deliver solutions (just rhetoric and control). We are witnesing a battle between socialism (progressive variant) and capitalism. This is a struggle that began in the 1840’s +/-10 and is now at a climax. The last 50 years has seen a decline in/and hostility toward religion. Indeed, as acceptance of Socialism has increased, participation/acceptance of (non governmental) religion has decreased. Socialism must make government their god. In order to make government their god they must destroy the concept of god. Behind the attack on religion is the vision to deify government. Therefore, anything that reduces the view that elites in government have the answers will serve to increase the traditional Liberal view of religion as expressed by John Locke, Adam Smith,… To chose otherwise means a future that is a very bleak dystopia.
      Steve

    • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 7:15 am

      I haven’t read this yet, but here’s a post on zerohedge from yesterday that at least touches on this subject, I think.
      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-14/post-western-world-disturbing-interview-prof-harry-redner-part-2

      The power over the next 500 years should move to the East. It’s a swing back and forth from East to West throughout history … so far.

  • Jody August 15, 2016, 12:05 am

    Peter,
    Just curious if you would think EW2 would be a fast 3 way move or more time consuming, and if you think Sept. top still in play with a 3,4 & 5 still left to go?

    Thanks for the post..

    • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 8:04 am

      I don’t know the answer to these questions. I could tell you what I think, but it would mean little.

  • purvez August 15, 2016, 3:56 am

    Hi Peter

    Many many thanks for your continued sharing of your research and indeed the ‘comments’ in the ‘contrarian corral’ post do need better preserving. Excellent and illuminating discourse by many, on the very interesting starting point of ‘everything being vibrations’ by Andre.

    Regarding the markets and your charts above. I would like to propose an alternative count which I have mentioned in the past. Using your charts above and in previous posts I believe the following could be happening:

    1. I agree with you that Wave 3 topped in May last year for the US indexes.

    2. Unlike you, I however believe that Wave 4 is still currently ongoing for all the indexes. Taking your S&P 500 chart above where you’ve marked 4(white) I believe is just Wave A of an ‘expanded flat’ for wave 4. The current wave is therefore by my count Wave B completing (or may even be complete). So the wave down that you are expecting as Wave 2(yellow) will be my Wave C for the expanded flat and should go below the Feb low. That would be the point at which wave 4(white) would complete.

    3. Since being on your site I have learned the value of ensuring that comparable indexes all ‘rhyme’. Regarding the NDX chart above, the chart from my service shows that the NDX also made a lower low of 3868 in Feb’16 than last August’15 which shows 3906 as the low then. On that basis my count on the NDX is the same as the one for the S&P500 i.e. the current wave is Wave B completing/complete.

    4. On the DJIA chart you’ve shown previously that Wave 4 completed last August. However on that one I would mark that as Wave A of the Wave 4 expanded flat. The subsequence ‘abc’ wave would then form Wave B and on the DJIA one can see that the current wave is now in 5 sub waves from the Jan lows i.e. wave ‘c’ of Wave B. The next wave down will therefore be Wave C of Wave 4 and should also go below the last August lows.

    I have 2 reasons for putting forward this count:

    i) This way of counting ensures that all the indexes will complete Wave 4 at about the same time rather than the DJIA completing back in August and the S&P and the NDX a few months later.

    ii) 4th Waves are not ‘one and done’ type waves which is what would have happened on the DJIA using your count. They are time eaters and particularly at the ‘level’ of wave that we are discussing I would expect a ‘lot of time’ to be taken up. My suggested wave count certainly does that too for ALL the indexes.

    I generally dislike disagreeing with hosts of forums, particularly someone as affable and knowledgeable as yourself and in part am doing this in the hope that you can point out the ‘flaw’ in my argument. The other reason for writing this is that IF I’m right then the tradeable size of the coming down wave is a lot bigger than people imagine.

    Once again thanks for all you do for us.

    • rose August 15, 2016, 6:29 am

      purex, it will be helpful, if you could post a chart for your thought

    • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 7:31 am

      Purvez,
      Well, you’ve obviously spent a long time on this, so I won’t try to dissuade you. However, I would have a hard time explaining away the fact that if we’re not in wave 5, we have a double wave 3 top … because once you’re at a new high, that’s a new wave, no matter what pattern you think you’re in. Either wave 4 is complete (and we’re in wave 5) or we’re now at the top of wave 3 and, in that case, you’ll have to explain the pattern from May, 2015 to now in that light. The new high is the problem. Once we exceeded the previous wave 3 high, we can no longer be in 4.

      The mother ship (NYSE—mother to the DOW and SPX, of course) is not at a new high, so that’s another issue, but your count would work for it, except it wouldn’t be an expanded flat.

      • purvez August 15, 2016, 7:44 am

        Peter, the reason we are at a new high is because the 4th wave is an ‘expanded flat’ correction. In an expanded flat the ‘b’ wave always goes past the start of the ‘a’ wave (Wave 3) in this case. Hence we are at a new high without counting this as the 5th wave. I’ll try and post a couple of charts showing the DJIA and the S&P500 later today.

        • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 7:50 am

          Again, “… because once you’re at a new high, that’s a new wave, no matter what pattern you think you’re in.”

          • purvez August 15, 2016, 8:08 am

            Sorry to belabour the point but how else can you get an ‘expanded flat’ for a wave 4 in a bull market without the ‘b’ wave going ABOVE the start of the ‘a’ wave i.e. above the top of Wave 3?

          • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 8:14 am

            In wave 4, as part of a combination wave. I don’t know how you can have an expanded flat as the only pattern in a wave 4.

          • purvez August 15, 2016, 8:25 am

            aaah I see what you are saying Peter. That’s a point of the Wave Principle I need to research further although the rules for an ‘expanded flat’ don’t preclude it happening for a 4th wave. As long as the ‘whole’ wave ends below the top of the 3rd wave then the sub wave can go higher. Otherwise the implication is that expanded flats can ONLY happen in 2nd waves, but I haven’t read anything to that effect anywhere.

            I will need to do more research.

          • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 8:42 am

            It’s not actually anything I’ve really thought about, to tell you the truth. Expanded flats are in corrective waves easily, but fundamentally, if you go to a new high, you’re in a new wave. In a fourth wave situation, that would tend to rule them out on their own. Flats yes, expanded no.

            Now, EW International tends to put a,b, and c waves at the ends of motive waves and think that’s OK. It sends me into a rant (and makes me furious) because, of course, it’s not right, and they always end up changing it as the count progresses.

            Now, overall, we are in a huge corrective wave from 2009, but we’re in the final wave and somehow, it needs to end in 5 waves. So, the basic rules still apply. The only option I can come up with for this fifth wave (and believe me, this I have spent a lot of time on) is an ending diagonal. 🙂

          • purvez August 15, 2016, 9:20 am

            Yes Peter, I believe we’ve exhausted the discussion on this one.

            Let’s now wait to see what happens.

        • purvez August 15, 2016, 8:06 am

          Here’s the chart of the DJIA with my count from the May top = Wave 3

          https://postimg.org/image/pgurijw6x/

  • andré August 15, 2016, 6:13 am

    8/17 will be the high of 2016. Showed you this weekend the trend is down. But the Jupiter cycle is up into Wednesday. Once this is gone, Peter’s accident will happen.

    So relax; the moment is near.

  • mike kasten August 15, 2016, 8:21 am

    Hi Peter, are you placing your short positions now or waiting for something else that needs to happen first?

    • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 8:43 am

      In EW, the preferred entry is after 5 waves down at small degree and 3 waves up to about 62%.

  • Whazzup August 15, 2016, 8:55 am

    I like the word ‘near’! 😀

    Cheers,

    W

  • valley August 15, 2016, 11:42 am

    PALS this week:
    Phase: bullish to Thursday FM open, bearish from then until Friday
    Distance: bullish all week post apogee
    Declination: neutral all week
    Seasonals: neutral all week
    Summary: monthly tides have bottomed today and next two weeks has rising tides. Will rising tides lift all equities? PALS is somewhat bullish this week. My Friday expiration spy puts are losing time value.

    • valley August 16, 2016, 10:53 am

      Sold puts for a loss mid day on Tuesday. Have a small VXX call position which I will sell soon. Can’t be short with rising tides, and perigee next week. Can’t be a buyer in mid August. “Cash is a position”.

  • jaywiz August 15, 2016, 12:00 pm

    Andre
    YES -IT does appear the market is closing in on a TOP
    just posted a SIMPLE EW graph of the wave e-4 pivot low on Aug2nd and 5 waves up to 2194- I had projected 2196 earlier this month. SO< TODAY AUG 15th just might be DONE.
    Obviously thats not my ONLY analysis, MY SCIENTIFIC resources are also indicating some selling is likely to occur. ALSO note the BEARISH CANDLES on the RUT. PC ratios are also bearish. 18th, a LEO full moon along with Bradley date and TIDE turn as of 14th, also help piece the puzzle together- NOW ALL WE NEED IS ACTION !!

    • andré August 15, 2016, 12:33 pm

      Jay,

      Thanks for the confirmation. Action will come. I anticipate bad news, as that always comes when you need it.

      Now down into march 2017.

  • mike kasten August 15, 2016, 12:26 pm

    Peter, we’re in wave 5. Are there letters here like a,b,c. If so, which letter are we in ?

    • Peter Temple August 15, 2016, 4:18 pm

      Mike,
      That information, I’m afraid, is reserved for the members of Trader’s Gold.

  • Whazzup August 15, 2016, 5:25 pm

    Mike,

    We seem to have finished C.5.3 today and are in C.5.4 right now. It is not yet clear where we will bottom since we are obviously in an ENDING DIAGONAL (they suck, but Peter always says it in a more mannered way ^^). My system gives me 18 August as the next turndate so C.5 ending should be somewhere on Thursday in a perfect world! 😉

    Cheers,

    W

  • andré August 16, 2016, 12:27 am

    Jim Sloman’s delta system was based on the observation that patterns tend to repeat every 1440 degrees in the sun-moon elongation cycle. Later 354, 1416 and 19 years were added, but the 1440 was the key. 1440 = 4×360. This is roughly 118 days but sme degree is sharper.

    The significant 4/20 timing gives 8/17. 20/4 was a high. Guess what will happen tomorrow?

    • andré August 16, 2016, 12:55 am

      And that will be 55 days from 6/23. And Venus conjunct the node. Shall I go on?

    • mike kasten August 16, 2016, 7:22 am

      2196 on the s&p?

      • andré August 16, 2016, 7:40 am

        I just do timing.

      • Whazzup August 16, 2016, 11:13 am

        Mike,

        I would say 2200± ES.

        Cheers,

        W

        • mike kasten August 16, 2016, 11:25 am

          Thanks Wazzup

  • Whazzup August 16, 2016, 5:17 am

    GO ON GO ON GO ON!!! WE WANT MORE! 😀

    Cool info André, loving it! 🙂

    Cheers,

    W

  • rotrot August 16, 2016, 9:38 am

    “Friday, August 26 through Tuesday, August 30”
    http://worldcyclesinstitute.com/ending-diagonals/#comment-10522

    “watch out for the 30th of August…it actually starts on the 26th…the key date is the 30th of August…the 26th is on a Friday so I am not sure what that weekend brings in…”
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/15/forget-the-stock-rally-investors-are-holding-cash.html

  • andré August 17, 2016, 3:54 am

    Vibrational prices is experimental. Two pricelevels I found are 2160,66 and 2228,33. The midpoint is 2194.4 and the ath is now 2193.81. This looks promissing,

    Should s&p go higher into rotrot time frime 2228 is the level to watch.

    The 360 degree price is 2369.

    The delta system can give inversions. But the jury is still out.

  • rotrot August 17, 2016, 6:08 pm
  • andré August 18, 2016, 2:59 am

    Inigo Jones discovered that climate depends on the movement of the big 4. More precisely; when they move towards Vega (=285,5 degrees) we get droughts. Moving opposite Vega causes floods. A composite calculation of the 4 reveals the high this year was in may 2016 and we are down into feb 2017.

    My lunar mansion is bullish into aug 26 and the down into march 2017. Two very different techniques.

    But now it is very clear; when we make the turn down it will be with the vega cycle.

    Just wanted to let you know.

    P.s. the moon plays a role as well. 8/15 the moon was conjunct vega. And wil move opposite 8/28. This caused the inversion. The 8/14 vibration was strong and gave the ATH 8/15. But the moon gave a Vega low; this halted the decline. I don’t say the moon times exactly; but this analysis supports the notion we are heading for a major turn.

    Cheers,

    André

    • Whazzup August 18, 2016, 8:19 am

      Ty A! 🙂

      Cheers,

      W

  • andré August 19, 2016, 12:34 am
  • andré August 19, 2016, 2:05 am

    I now realize Jones saw something else. This is not about Vega, but about the galactic center. The galactic center is a huge source of radiation that affects the sun. When the big outer planets move between the GC and the sun they shield the sun from this radiation. This is important because it means this is not the same as the IMF.

    So when the GC trend is down and IMF is down it is real confirmation.

    Cheers,

    André

  • andré August 19, 2016, 3:09 am

    Was a bit fast with my conclusion. The GC theory does not explain why opposition brings floods.

    Still, the GC cycle is a real natural cycle but we have to calculate it heliocentric. This weekend I’ll post what I found.

    But this means my analysis yesterday is sound; we are headed for conjunction with Vega and that will bring droughts/cold/low in the market.

    More analysis this weekend.

    André

    • Whazzup August 19, 2016, 9:17 am

      Sounds cool A! Looking forward to it! 🙂

      Cheers,

      W

  • John August 19, 2016, 7:28 am

    Watch out we are in the moonwobble period agian (august 4 till September 21),with Mercury going retograde on August 30 th.

    http://www.astrology.com.tr/articles.asp?artID=88

    • Whazzup August 19, 2016, 9:18 am

      So what do you expect John?

      Cheers,

      W

      • John August 19, 2016, 9:35 am

        We will wobble a bit till August 25,after that we go down till Sept 1.
        Maybe a sharp fall.

        • Whazzup August 19, 2016, 11:32 am

          So we are on the same page, good to hear! 🙂

  • jaywiz August 19, 2016, 11:18 am

    OH , yeh, DONT FORGET THE TECH DATA
    PC ratios are WAY OVERBOT and are signalling some selling is NEEDED
    First time in weeks that we now have the OEX, SPY, EPC, QQQ, NDX, and DIA all with very low ratios.
    ARMS data ratios are also giving sell signals

    • Whazzup August 19, 2016, 11:33 am

      Cool! 🙂

  • Peter Temple August 19, 2016, 1:01 pm

    Negative interest rates are starting to creep into the banking system. Note in particular the reference to people who trade options and futures (RBS).
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-19/bank-ireland-royal-bank-scotland-start-charging-select-clients-holding-cash
    Hoarding of cash is already starting to happen (historically low velocity of money charts for the US) and this is what may push us over the edge.

  • steve August 19, 2016, 8:38 pm

    Andre’,
    I have been doing some research on the use of Pada’s=Nakshatra’s as it might relate to market timing. Recently you have made mention of the star Vega. In my research, the following was mentioned re Vega. I no longer believe in coincidence without purpose, and I was told to mention the following to you. I do not know why, it may be a long time if ever before an answer is given. For more info, the site is: http://www.dirah.org
    “At this point, something happens which may surprise us. At first what happens is very much what we would have expected. There comes another Moksha Nakshatra, which is Utturashadha, but then we seem to skip the Kama Nakshatra and go right to an Artha Nakshatra which is Shravana and then we come to a Dharma Nakshatra which is Dhanista. Of course, it is interesting to know why we skip the Kama Nakshatra. The answer seems to be that in the past there used to be a system of 28 Nakshatras. The 28st Nakshatra is Abhijit. This Nakshatra is located between Purvashadha and Shravana. It is the only Nakshatra of which the main star Vega is located far away from the ecliptic. That is also why it is hard to locate it on the ecliptic and probably one reason why it is skipped. However, some fifteen thousand years ago Vega used to be the polestar. In the past, this Nakshatra could be very important. The fact that the deity which belongs to this Nakshatra is Brahma, the creator, seems to underline this. Today, this Nakshatra is sometimes used for religious purposes, but is not a standard part of the system.”
    Steve

    • andré August 19, 2016, 11:02 pm

      Steve,

      Very interesting. There are 2 basic origins in astro; Chinese and Babylonic, The 28 dasha system comes from Chinese astro and is basically a lunar mansion system. As the moon cycle is more than 27 days we need 28 houses for the moon to live in. Vedic now uses 27, but I use 28. This is why my system gives a dasha – based on the 5/17/1792 NYSE birth date – that turns bearish 8/26. After more than 200 years.

      The link with Vega is interesting and new to me.

      My planetary indicator shows some interesting developments next week, Told you Jupiter turned down 8/17 This is significant as this is a very long cycle. But the indicator is still above average. Mercury and Venus give shorter cycles and they both are down above average. The force grows stronger when the indicator is down below average. Mercury turns negative 8/22 and crosses the average 8/23, Venus crosses the average 8/31 and turns negative 9/4. The moon peaks 8/27,

      This analysis says:
      1) Jupiter is down and joins Mars that has been down as of december
      2) Mercury turns down – for the first time since Jupiter is down
      3) venus turns down by the end of august.

      As of september all indicators are down with only Jupiter above average. Jupiter reaches max neg april 2017. Venus and Mars- once Venus has turned – are down into January 2017.

      This system confirms – and that is mind boggling – the dasha system that is based on the 120 lunar year system.

      The vega-trend (Jones) is down as of May and will be down into february 2017,

      The gravitational system (first quarter at apogee) is down into november as is the IMF trend.

      My harmonical cycle system turned 8/12.

      So, basically, everything I see is bearish or will turn bearish next week. Volatility will go up when Mercury turns south and when the moon joins Mercury. But things get nasty when Venus turns. As of 9/4 everything is definitely down, just when the sun will be conjunct the node (9/5) with Mercury retro.

      Wallstreet has been flat all week; above you can see why. And you can also see something has changed this week and everything else will follow next week.

      Will give some vibrational dates to confirm the turns and a roadmap for the cycle structure down into march 2017.

      Cheers,

      André

  • andré August 20, 2016, 12:01 am
    • Steve August 20, 2016, 3:38 am

      Andre’
      Yes, I had seen that. The Metonic Cycle is interesting and IMHO important. I have begun to look at groups of New Moon Families in which the NM, FM, and both quarter moons are each set 9 months apart (a gestation cycle) and these families fit within the same degree of sign based on the Metonic Cycle of the NM and FM. There are some interesting results, but it’s too early to know if viable. As soon as I can find the reference book I will pass it on.
      Steve

      • andré August 20, 2016, 3:48 am

        Steve,

        The problem I have with the 19 year cycle is that it only looks at sun-moon elongation, but not at apogee/perigee.

        As explained before, the 1440 degree cycle is very accurate but all the other cycles derived from this to build a ‘system’ are much less accurate.

        Thats why Carolan uses an average of 6 or 7 19 year periods; hoping the average does something.

      • Steve August 20, 2016, 4:23 am

        Andre’,
        The book is “Lunar Shadows III: The Predictive Power of Moon Phases & Eclipses” by Dietrech Pessin

        • andré August 20, 2016, 7:02 am

          thanks!

  • Steve August 20, 2016, 3:07 am

    Andre’
    Interesting, thanks. What does IMF stand for, as in IMF trend or IMF cycle. I assume it’s not International Monetary Fund 🙂 Also, when you discuss Jupiter cycle (turning down, moving below average), can you explain a little more. I’m unsure of what you mean. Thanks in advance,
    Steve

    • andré August 20, 2016, 3:39 am

      steve,

      IMF is interplanetary field and this is affected by a tidal pull on the sun. So distance is a big thing. Only Jupiter is close enough for gravity. The vega cycle is magnetism; now all the outer planets are relevant as this is not about Newton’s law.

      I have a proprietary indicator that gives the strength of the planet. When the indicator is high this is bullish. Jupiter gave max strength 8/17.

      On this indicator I calculated a multiyear average. As long as above there is still some bullishness. Below is bad and negative below is the worst. As we have more than 1 planet it is wise to look at them all. That’s what I did above.

      • andré August 20, 2016, 3:39 am

        Interplanetary MAGNETIC field

  • rotrot August 20, 2016, 3:12 am

    “Keep in mind folks this Monday we hit 1.27, 1.618, 1.27, 1.618, and 1.618 expansions on the stock market indices so that means something…we also had the lunar eclipse which was yesterday with the full moon that also means something…unless the market reverses today we are going to be in a down week…that is going to be a possibility of the start of some type of a correction…”
    Larry Pesavento, August 19, 2016

  • andré August 20, 2016, 4:31 am

    My short term harmonical cycle and the tides suggest a high 8/27. 115td cycle gives a high 8/30. So a high 8/29 seems likely with 9/3 a low.

    But everything is starting to look very bearish, so the only questiion I have is : will this be a new ATH (2228) or a lower high.

    In this case : Monday high (perigee) wednesday low (last quarter) 8/29 high and 9/3 low. 9/29 is a dark day-should be high.

    I have tidal inversions 8/21, 8/28, 8/31, 9/6, 9/11 and 9/18-19(strong)

    8/22 is start of new vedic season. Other than in the west vedic has 6 seasons. And this season will run from 8/22 til 10/23 and is ruled by Mercury. So mercury retrograde in this season should be special.

  • rotrot August 20, 2016, 6:20 am
  • andré August 20, 2016, 7:07 am
  • andré August 21, 2016, 12:47 am

    Looking at the dasha’s here’s what we see:

    Sun bullish into Thursday
    Mercury bullish into Friday
    Venus bullish into 8/29
    Mars bearish into 9/3
    Jupiter bullish into 9/1
    Saturn bearish into 11/10

    Summary : Saturn is bearish; confirming the analysis above. But Jupiter is bullish into month end and this week supported by Sun, Mercury and Venus.

    So this analysis also says that soon something fundamental will change. When Jupiter joins Saturn in the downtrend, the two slowest boys work together.

    We also see there is no strong trend; it’s a mixed bag. But it confirms what my astro indicator showed; long term we are already down,. But this get more severe in September. This week seems quiet as short term there is some up force as I stated above. Next week things will get more volatile as the sun turns bearish as of Friday.

    So I this week will be consolidating with a high on Monday, a low on wednesday and up again into Friday. But my mercury indicator turns this weekend so the overall bias is down.

    Cheers,

    André

  • andré August 21, 2016, 1:29 am

    8/29 Vyatipaata and Indrachaapa give a combined signal (Upagrahas). 8/28 tidal inversion.

    So I expect some bouncing around next weekend as the market senses something is turning. So something may try to stop the decline – in vain and short lived.

    It could be Friday will give a high and a low as 8/29 will likely be tested. But now sun, Venus and mars are bearish. Could be a last violent spike up before it crashes.

    • andré August 21, 2016, 1:39 am

      Alternative : 29 low, bounce into 9/3. All very strong data.

      • andré August 21, 2016, 1:44 am

        P.s. the delta system supports the last scenario; 9/3 high.

  • andré August 21, 2016, 2:33 am

    Tomorrow is ruled by Mars. So the high will likely come during the second panetary hour or between 15:45 and 17:28.

    • Steve August 21, 2016, 3:45 am

      Andre’,
      “Tomorrow is ruled by Mars”. Isn’t Monday ruled by Moon, or are you referring to Tuesday? Or I may be confused by time zone differences.
      Steve

      • andré August 21, 2016, 4:03 am

        To be correct Mars and moon. But Mars is stronger. Monday is Always moon. But 8/22=8+2+2=3 = mars.

        • Steve August 21, 2016, 4:59 am

          Ahhh, I understand now what you mean, thanks,
          Steve

  • Whazzup August 21, 2016, 4:05 am

    Looking at my own stuff André, I would say a high as per the beginning of september (so let’s say your 3 September). That will be a short lived bounce yes…

    Cheers,

    W

    • andré August 21, 2016, 4:28 am

      I also said likely a high. Only question ; ATH or lower high.

  • Whazzup August 21, 2016, 9:29 am

    Lower high! Maybe wave B high of C.2?

    Cheers,

    W

    • andré August 21, 2016, 10:27 am

      I have 2 concerns;

      1) 2208 is a vibrational price and likely a magnet
      2) 8/24 is a very strong turndate and may provide the energy for this last spike up.

      Changes nothing in the outlook; we are close to a historical event in the markets. 2017 is just the first low; this bear will live for years. 2023 seems more likely by the week.

      • steve August 21, 2016, 3:41 pm

        Andre’,
        Regarding the 2208 vibrational price, I have some very strong levels that are in that neighborhood, that should provide very strong vibrational resistance.
        Based on Color: low frequency red/orange X 5 = 2200
        medium frequency green/cyan X 4 =2217
        very high frequency Violet X 3 =2220
        Based 440 sound vibration C# (between Mi and Fa): 2217.46
        We are already knocking on the first level of support at:
        Color (minor based inter-color Fibonacci interpellation) at 2172-70
        Sound (432 vibration) at 2177.12
        Enneagram (see Gurdjieff; Cosmic Secrets) at 2160 for La
        The market is having a very difficult time staying above these vibrational support levels.
        Steve

  • andré August 21, 2016, 12:24 pm

    I promissed to give a roadmap into 2017. This is the general structure I see:

    8/16 high
    10/14 low
    12/11 high
    3/25 low.

    We can see short term deviations from this but this can be considered as the back bone. Once we get closer to the dates we can do some finetuning.

    For now this is the best I can do. Any remarks are welcome.

    • valley August 21, 2016, 2:04 pm

      I like your choices =)

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