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Way Too Much Bull!

Way Too Much Bull!

To be successful in trading, one of your hats has to be a “Contrarian Hat.” When everyone else (the herd) is in a trade and positive it’s going to continue, it’s time for you to look for a trend change. When the movement of an asset (eg – the US Dollar) starts to produce major mainstream news stories, you know a trend change is imminent.

The US Dollar has been all over the media this past week; the trend is all but over.

The herd registers extreme sentiment in one direction near the end of a trend. In other words, extreme mass sentiment of this nature is usually due to “everyone” being fully invested in the current trend. Volume starts to dry up, because there are few others left out there who aren’t already committed (both financially and psychologically). We’re seeing historical off-the-charts extremes.

Daily Sentiment Index (percentage bulls)
Here’s a reading of this week’s sentiment (, along with the level of bullish sentiment:

Gold: 91%
Euro: 90%
Crude Oil: 96%
Nasdaq: 97%
SP500: 96%

US Dollar: 8% (in other words, heavily bearish)

The last few days of this week, we’ve seen a negative NYSE advance/decline ratio even as US equities rose to extreme new highs. The FANGs (Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, and Google/Alphabet) are the major stocks behind what’s left of this rally—market breadth is very low. Along with the sentiment reading his suggests a turn is imminent.

Also note that the VIX levels have been abnormally high in the final stages of this rally. This non-confirmation is typical of the final stages of a trend. The VIXX has also turned up very recently, also telegraphing a change in trend is likely nearby.

Prepare for a Turn

Let’s look at an update of the US Dollar.

I’ve been maintaining for the last couple of years that once the US Dollar found its low (it’s in a large fourth wave—a corrective wave), that it would mark the top of the US market.

Above is the daily chart of UUP (US Dollar ETF). UUP is representative of the structure of DXY (the US index) and will provide an excellent predictor of the impending top in currency pairs and the US indices.

Last weekend, I wrote here that I was expecting a small yellow wave 4 and then a new low in a wave 5. We now have that pattern in place, but it doesn’t look quite complete yet, although very close. I’m expecting one more smaller degree fourth wave now (up) and a final fifth wave to conclude this trend, culminating in a turn up and leading eventually to a new high above 26.82 for UPP and a similar new high for the US Dollar.

The dotted fibonacci line at about 23.00 could be the final target for a turn.

The movement of the dollar strongly influences the movement of just about everything else, so it’s important to pay attention to what it’s doing on a large scale.


DAX has potentially topped and tracing out an impulsive sequence to the downside. Some USD currency pairs appear to have changed trend, while others are working on a turn. Oil is looking “toppy.” Gold and silver are heading down with USDJPY. The VIX has also foreshadowing trouble on the horizon. Even the VIXX is showing signs of a trend change. We’re almost all set—we just need the trigger for the US indices. The trigger is the turn of the US Dollar.

In summary, everything is at an inflection point, or very close to a turn, but a little more patience is warranted. This is a trend change internationally; the US market is only one of a huge array of big players. The world turns …

Calling a Top

There was a period in August 2016 where the US market looked like it was heading for a top. I never did call a top, however. You can’t call a top until you have a first impulsive wave down to a previous 4th wave, a second wave up to at least 62% of the drop and then a new low after that. We haven’t had that sequence, so I haven’t called a top. You’ll know when I call a top … lol.

Once the SP500 went to a new high in 2016 (just that one index), it was clear we weren’t going to top at that point, and I proclaimed that we were going to continue heading up. It was an immediate call because EW is very clear at certain points. Once one index provides a technical breach of a key level, its buddies will follow.

This wave up from 2009 is a B wave, a corrective wave. It’s not supposed to be possible, based on Prechter’s book, which flies in the face of what Elliott believed. I wrote about this in my blog a few weeks ago. I’m one of the only ones that believes we’re in a corrective B wave, which is notoriously hard to predict, because there are few to no rules. They end after 5 waves, but will appear to be in 3 waves. The subwaves are often all over the place and fibonacci ratios are often not hit (contrary to what happens in impulsive waves).

EW is price cycles; it has an extremely weak timing element.

So, due to the weak timing cycle, you have to follow EW until you see the final fifth of fifth of fifth (these levels due to the fractal nature of the market). So, while Bob Prechter (EW’s iconic promoter) has called a top several times, I won’t until I see the pattern I’ve outlined above. It might be late for some, but it will be a “firm” call.

This weekend, we have the US indices finishing the fifth etc wave. Several major stocks have already topped and are in the midst of tracing out the pattern I described above. DAX has topped unofficially, along with TSLA, and AAPL and others.

However, I won’t “call” a top in the US market until I’ve seen the above pattern, because it’s unsafe to short until that pattern has unfolded.

People say I’ve called a top. I have not. I’ve been saying we’re topping, but I also say topping is a process. The US indices are part of a much larger picture. They are one asset class of a worldwide topping process. I expect the US indices to top this week. The signs are all over the place, but the key is the US Dollar.


The Tesla Train is Leaving the Station

Above is the 2 day chart of Tesla, showing my prediction playing out. The top is not officially in here; we need a new low below ~290.00.

Last week, I suggested we’d head up in a “double-pronged” second wave, which is exactly what we’ve done. We’ve now potentially turned down into a third wave with a target in the 209 area. After hitting that target, we’ll require fourth wave bounce and then a final fifth wave drop to a new low near the 130 area.

There are potential variations to this pattern, but the ultiamate goal for a first wave down should be below 140.00.

Less Expensive iPhones on the Way?

Above is the 2 hour chart of AAPL. Two weeks ago, I predicted a small rise to a final high, which is what happened. It was followed by a turn down.

Now we have what appears to be three waves down in place. Note that the third wave as shown is a fibonacci length of 1.618 X the first wave. I’m expecting a fourth wave bounce and then a large 5th wave down to the 148.00 area.

Ending diagonals always revert back to the start of the ending diagonal, which is the previous 4th wave area (~148.00).

On Deck: Facebook

Above is the 4 hour chart of Facebook (one of the FANG stocks). This shows the final pattern I described last weekend, which is an ending diagonal. Ending diagonals gained that name because they form at the end of a trend. You can short a pattern like this when it drops below the lower trendline.

There will be a lot fewer people posting “look at me!” stories in the coming years … somewhat of an understatement, I think. But again, the key to shorting these “whales” is to wait for a complete first and second wave scenario to play out.


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The Market This Week

Here's the latest daily chart of ES (emini futures)
Above is the daily chart of ES (click to enlarge, as with any of my charts).

There have been no material changes to my prognosis. We are at the high. I expect this final wave to turn down imminently. 

Another frustrating week as the US Dollar tries to find its bottom. As a result, the US indices have inched a little bit higher in yet another extended subwave of the 5th wave. The underlying technical indicators however, don't support an extended rise.

Volume: It's risen slightly. Bullish sentiment is EXTREME.

Summary: The count is full for the US market in general, except for small subwaves that form the balance of a motive set of waves in SPX and some other major US indices. We're watching for a turn, which will change the trend and end the 500 year bull market.


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  • Pieter van Leeuwen January 27, 2018, 8:51 pm

    Hi Peter …. is there an invalidation level on UUP, based on a possible 1 4 overlap ? My sense is that 1 up was back in mid 2012, but I’d be interested in your take on that. For the record, I’m not real optimistic toward a final bottom here. The five waves down MAY be just completing a larger 1 down. TWT. And thanks, as always.

    • Peter Temple January 28, 2018, 10:29 am

      The wave down is corrective, so it can’t be an impulsive first wave. It’s a fourth wave.

      • Peter Temple January 28, 2018, 6:38 pm

        Re: the US dollar. Now that I have my charts open … it also could be a second wave, or a fourth wave of the third. I note tonight that it’s overlapped the first wave. But a first it cannot be. If a second wave, it would retrace 62% from the bottom of the first wave. UPP is already at that point. There are several options, but a first wave isn’t one of them.

  • John January 27, 2018, 10:15 pm

    Thanks Peter,

    Excellent piece of work.

  • Jeff Trimble January 28, 2018, 7:26 am

    Peter T

    Is there a chance that the global elite have taken such control of the markets and the dollar that normal behavior of the entities is being controlled? In you opinion could EW or any other analytic method be thwarted because of such manipulation?

    • Peter Temple January 28, 2018, 10:32 am

      If the dollar got pegged to something like gold, and gold was set at consistent price, as in the 30s, then yes. Otherwise, highly unlikely.

  • Willem Westerhoff January 28, 2018, 7:56 am

    Hi Peter, Thanks for all the good information. I am not a specialist on Elliott Wave. But I give you my predictions based on 6 indicators Astrology (special from Holland), pattern of DOW a month before etc. working on it since 2003. Only as confirmation. “This week is Important. The highest High S&P500 for the next months is on monday and than the decline is until around 24 feb, we go up to 11 march and than we have a decline til 29 may. (LOW date has changed)

    • rotrot January 28, 2018, 11:35 am

      Manfred Zimmel’s Bradley Siderograph for 2018

    • rotrot January 28, 2018, 12:20 pm

      may not be as simple and straight forward as that…

      • Willem Westerhoff January 29, 2018, 12:43 am

        A nice chart and I have found the website. All I know is that at the end of may we make a LOW with the EU indices. (Famous Dutch predictor I may not sent his name at this moment). My indicators are all different but 4/1 LOW, 29/1 HIGH, 23-25/2 LOW, are confirmed. Now 9-11/3. 9/3 is an important ASTRO turn date. “The people see that financialsystem is not working”. About two weeks from now I have 2 indicators that can confirm if 9/3 is a HIGH. It must be higher than 23-25/2 Than the pattern is O.K. 🙂

        • Willem Westerhoff January 29, 2018, 12:55 am

          Forgotten: 29/1 is the nr 4 of the bearmarket Ending diagonal.
          S&P500 week (If this is wrong I will stop it)
          29/1 High, 30/1 LOW, 31/1 little recover, 1/2 decline 2/2 LOW in the morning with a recover to the end of the trading hours, then a decline again. If

  • Scott Osborne January 28, 2018, 8:06 am

    I eagerly look forward to reading Peter’s post each Sunday and am never disappointed. Always something to learn…

  • John January 28, 2018, 9:49 am


    We have a bradley turn on Jan 28 ( geo) and Feb 1 ( helio),
    Also moonwobble period with a peak energie on Feb 4…..

    So the turn will come for sure…is it before or after the fed… we will see this week.

    I bought March puts on the AEX on Friday

  • rotrot January 28, 2018, 12:12 pm

    “US Reveals an Important Historical USD Hand” – Ed Matts | January 28, 2018

    “Currencies and particularly currency devaluations can play a pivotal role in the medium term trends of other asset classes. The issue, most particularly for us at this juncture in the stock market uptrend, is whether any development in US foreign exchange policy has any bearing on the course of the 1929/1987 style stock blowout. The answer is a stunning YES!

    It so happens that the 1987 and 2018 USD downtrends are very comparable. Although the scale of the decline, and the significance of official announcements is much smaller in 2017 than 1986, the structure and timing are remarkably similar.

    …the highly unusual combination of a falling Dollar, rampant stock market, rising commodity prices and bond yields has only been 3 times in American history 1928-1929, 1986-1987 and 2017-2018…if the USD and stock markets continue with this template — President Trump may not be smiling next year at Davos following a far from immaculate year.”

  • Ed January 28, 2018, 1:14 pm


    I appreciate your update!

    • rotrot January 28, 2018, 1:18 pm

      if you think Matts’ 1987 “template” has merit, then after a period of consolidation the stock market should blast off to new all time highs before the collapse…just a thought not an endorsement!

  • Ed January 28, 2018, 1:21 pm


    Reviewed your post of January 5, 2018. You shared a chart which was a composite of 8 or more stock indices…at that point in time we were 5.11% below your upper channel line.

    I do not have such a composite index…but shouldn’t we be very to that “upper channel” trend line?

  • Ed January 28, 2018, 1:22 pm


  • m s January 28, 2018, 3:29 pm

    I have to say that the 1987 analogy fitted in my eyes, I cant say that we get a 40% decline but for me given the current trending the market is doing that would be the ultimate head fake.
    Like rotrot said if this occurs after basing for multi month then up we go fast and for a prolonged period could be past the year 2030.
    I don’t think that we will have problems spotting this move terminating also as we have historical data showing just how fast it happens.

    I know many including Peter may not like this idea but whilst I would prefer peters view to take place I don’t think we all should not consider the 1987 style move also….I think its prudent.

    • rotrot January 28, 2018, 4:43 pm

      “Like rotrot said if this occurs after basing for multi month then up we go fast and for a prolonged period”

      I DID NOT write that nor did I imply that would happen!

      • m s January 28, 2018, 6:05 pm

        Apologies Rotrot I did not mean that you said it I meant “Ed matt’s” opinion.

  • rotrot January 28, 2018, 4:46 pm

    the following is a characterization offered by Martin Armstrong: “2018 is a Panic Cycle Year”…hopefully the knucklehead factor has been eliminated from this public blog…if not, they will be dealt with appropriately!

  • donald jason January 28, 2018, 7:41 pm

    Market will start dropping only when most of the people is shouting bullish. Vice versa, market will ONLY grow higher when everybody is preparing for TOP.

  • luri January 29, 2018, 6:50 am

    ES in da mornin’……………………………….and remember………..”ENJOY!”

  • Tom C. January 29, 2018, 7:35 am

    Energy chart for this week attached

  • Joe Longwill January 29, 2018, 8:55 am

    Thanks Peter 🙂

  • Joe Longwill January 29, 2018, 9:01 am

    We were with in a very close proximatey to that upper channel on Friday .
    I’m in a class today yet from my memory we were less than 1/2% and did not
    Hit the target . I’d rather not see the target hit and prefer to consider the top in place.
    I agree with Peter .
    We need 5 waves down followed by a 3 wave structure up before concluding a top is in.
    I took a speculative trade Friday near the close as a hedge yet I have not
    Put on any outright short positions .

  • luri January 29, 2018, 9:14 am

    ok, we have overlap……………….btw…………..does anyone knows what is “supposed” to happen with an “overlap”??


    • Verne Carty January 29, 2018, 9:20 am

      Cannot be labelled an impulse. Could be ED. 🙂

      • luri January 29, 2018, 9:47 am

        well……..well……………………….. “WELL”………

        look what the cat [and a chipmunk in a wheelchair] dragged in……………..

        so verne………………… no impulse huh!!! are you “sure” about that……….

        …………huh………………. what if it is an “impulse”……….. ???? :-))

        • luri January 29, 2018, 9:56 am

          you mean like this verne??

          • Verne Carty January 29, 2018, 10:44 am

            Possible…owing to 4 overlap… 🙂

  • luri January 29, 2018, 2:40 pm

    ES end of day –

    close up –

  • Verne Carty January 29, 2018, 9:27 pm

    As expected, the battle for control is unfoldimg in the futures market. A VIX gap past 15 tomorrow and all the years of brazen bankster BS comes to a screeching halt. I hope for the sake of all the smug longs that they can at least get temporary control of this beast. Stops will not protect you when price gaps past it and if you did not specify a limit price for your exit, you will be filled at the best available price below your stop so be aware…

    • SkippytheWondernerd January 30, 2018, 2:56 pm

      I see 14.65 today, Verne. Still holding out for 15?

  • Jody Connor January 29, 2018, 10:16 pm

    Where are the knuckle heads tonight?? lol

  • luri January 30, 2018, 6:37 am

    …………so ………………”yes”……………………technically ……….it WAS me that was playing that online “trivia” game…………………………..and ………….’YES’………….IT WAS ME…….
    that answered …………”blue”…………………when asked “what was the primary color of little red riding hood’s outfit”????………………………………………………………..

    smarty pants – i was right!………………………everyone needs a change of clothes YOU KNOW!! [and for the public record – i did rejigger the count]

    • luri January 30, 2018, 7:54 am

      aaand…..after the open……….. ES

      • luri January 30, 2018, 8:08 am

        wow, that was quick…..

        • luri January 30, 2018, 8:12 am

          next 2759 level……….

          hmmm…..verne, joe, jody………what say youeth?? speaketh the truth!!

          • Willem Westerhoff January 30, 2018, 8:44 am

            now 16:35 Berlin time – if I follow my indicators we make a slowly recovery til the end of closing S&P 500 to day. Than a little decline to start 31 jan. The whole day seems to be very slowly UP. After closing on 31 jan S&P 500 we go down until friday morning. Then we start up till the end of the trading of S&P 500. And go down again. Be carefull

          • luri January 30, 2018, 8:51 am


            this makes sense, as the FOMC rate decision is tomorrow, and the fed displays absolute control around FOMC day!!

  • Qwertyqwer26 January 30, 2018, 8:28 am

    The trump bull is becoming the trump bear. He shalt not be able to prevent it….after a final surge to 2900 ES to form the ultimate bull trap.

    • Verne Carty January 30, 2018, 9:42 am

      Yep. I think one final ramp to the short trade of many lifetimes…

  • luri January 30, 2018, 8:47 am

    so………………….it is impossible to “grasp” the charting of the vix at the daily time frame or below………….

    i have ventured a try……… the monthly time frame……….. so be kind…….

    and………………”BE WARNED”……………………….. oh yes………..and …..”ENJOY”!

  • Verne Carty January 30, 2018, 9:43 am

    Yep! ?

  • luri January 30, 2018, 9:55 am

    …..”would you like some ………..shredded………ice berg lettuce to go with that side order of ……..trumptonian “ego”?? …………i mean, you must admit – both have these “orange” undertones………. the perfection and sophistication of ………….”a la page”!

    • luri January 30, 2018, 10:53 am

      throwin some spaghetti!!

      • Verne Carty January 30, 2018, 12:09 pm

        Could it be that DJI 26,616.71 will be THE number?!
        Seems to remind me of another famous group of six lows, lol!

        • luri January 30, 2018, 12:42 pm

          …..hmm…….”famous group of six lows”????………………………. ahhhh…… I would like to buy a “vowel” please verne ………………… and, I would like to solve the puzzle for all the money please verne…………………… “famous group of six lows??” – – – verne…….is it, peanut butter and jelly ???

          • Verne Carty January 30, 2018, 12:58 pm

            March 2, 2009, SPX 666.79…

          • luri January 30, 2018, 1:11 pm


            i thought it was 3/6/09 – that is 3, 6, 9 [tesla’s numbers]!!

  • Verne Carty January 30, 2018, 1:14 pm

    Yep, March 6, not 2….(chart was on weekly! 🙂 )

  • Joe Longwill January 30, 2018, 1:23 pm

    I need to see a weekly reversal , that is to say a poke below last week’s low.
    On the road traveling so no data to get detailed with .
    What would be nice to see is a new weekly low this week below last week’s low
    And then using weekly bars , watching the market come back to the mid point of that range
    Before heading lower .
    That is not Elliott wave theory at all but it would help to define the present cycle for me .
    The Jan 26- Feb 2 time frame for a high I’ll consider as accurate but there are other minor
    Cycles I have a couple issues with .
    I still can’t rule out this as part of a sideways move in a broad sense which lasts into mid Feb
    Or early March .
    That said it appears the top is in place .

  • Joe Longwill January 30, 2018, 1:27 pm

    My definition of a sideways move :
    A series of waves 1 an 2 or a and b
    Or a narrowing range consolidation .

  • Red Dog January 30, 2018, 8:35 pm
  • Ed January 31, 2018, 7:06 am

    Peter G,

    How your close only line chart of the S&P 500 that you posted back on January 19th looking to you? You had simultaneously posted a chart of the A/D line…that showed negative divergence.

    That upper trend line on the S&P repelled price lower after a brief excursion above it. A poster with a very long name which I will refer to as “Q..26” says maybe 2900;in the ESH18. That would give you the divergence you would like to see, right?

    Joe, however, does not want to see new highs (I think)…Peter T with whom I agree thinks a Top occurs this week! Any thoughts?

  • Verne Carty January 31, 2018, 7:25 am

    Keeping in mind how fraught with peril market prognostications have been of late, I venture a guess that we do not yet have a final top. Here are three reasons.
    STILL waaaay too much bull! Traders everywhere are still crowing about the great buying opportunity, piling into XIV, V bottoms, yada, yada, yada!
    Second, VIX B bands did not expand to contain price the way it will when it heads for the moon after the top is in.
    Its movement above the upper B band has for quite some time heralded an at least interim bottom.
    The third reason is related to the first. Granted a number of important trend lines were violated in several indices on the recent impulsive decline, the move is nothing like what we are going to see after the final top is in. I think the first impulsive wave down after the top is going to be heart-stopping, and will make the election night decline look like a blip on the screen. I will gurantee you this one thing: the first impulsive wave down after the top is not going to issue in giddy bulls falling all over themselves to BTFD as we are now seeing. In fact, the ferocity of the decline will bring the fear of God back to the markets, and ensure ultimate failure of the bankster second wave dump.
    I suspect we may have the A wave of a fourth complete, with one more high to come….stand by… 🙂

  • Jody Connor January 31, 2018, 7:41 am

    SPX has entered the zone (2839) where if this is W(4) of the 1st leg down we should see a reversal. If markets close red today, top is in. IMHO

    • luri January 31, 2018, 8:46 am


      ES shall be …………..”red”………… by divine instruction –
      [me count is a little different than yours.]

    • Peter Temple January 31, 2018, 8:51 am

      Good, Mr. C.

      • Jody Connor January 31, 2018, 1:17 pm


    • Peter Temple January 31, 2018, 8:52 am

      or Ms. C. … I can’t remember which …

      • Jody Connor January 31, 2018, 1:18 pm

        Men spell Jody with a Y women with an i or ie..

        • Peter Temple January 31, 2018, 1:22 pm

          Well, I was pretty sure. Didn’t want to be a part of the me too movement …

          • Peter Temple January 31, 2018, 1:31 pm

            So we have what’s trying to be a top … unofficially, of course.

  • luri January 31, 2018, 9:13 am

    ES update – with a nice big dollap of clotted cream!

    • Peter Temple January 31, 2018, 9:32 am

      You would be correct here if you got rid of the amber labels.

      • luri January 31, 2018, 9:48 am

        bite your tongue peter!!

        “amber”……… sooooo 2018!!! :-))

        • Peter Temple January 31, 2018, 10:22 am

          OK … orange, after 3-4 cycles of “heavy wash” and double spin cycles …

    • Verne Carty January 31, 2018, 12:50 pm

      Uh Huh! 🙂

  • luri January 31, 2018, 9:39 am

    the dreaded “zone of 4”!

  • luri January 31, 2018, 10:00 am

    is the ES in a head and shoulder pattern?

    • Verne Carty January 31, 2018, 12:54 pm

      Looks like you need a bit of a sloped line to better connect the shoulders but I doubt it would make a big difference to the measured downside distance…. 🙂

  • Peter George January 31, 2018, 2:10 pm

    Ed, per your request:

  • Peter George January 31, 2018, 2:22 pm

    And here is an alternate interpretation of the channel, Ed, using the April ’16 high rather than the July ’16 one. The red lines are a closing price channel while the blue ones are intraday. The red ones were virtually exact at the high while there was a slight overthrow on the intraday channel. This is the same link but it should now show the second chart below the first to appreciate the subtle differences…

  • Ed January 31, 2018, 3:47 pm

    Peter G,

    Thank you for the charts! I hope others get as much out of your posts…as I do!
    Your posts are thought provoking and appreciated!

  • luri January 31, 2018, 4:05 pm

    no marshmallows…….. peep……….

    sorry, the new low today was NO w5……… now see the 1 min time frame for analysis

    summary – this is an incomplete wave. If we go up tomorrow, it will represent a B wave……and an A wave completed today because the w5 was corrective.


    summary – this is an incomplete wave……if we gap down tomorrow, it will represent a completion of the series of 1 and 2’s that was created at end of day.

    • luri January 31, 2018, 5:57 pm

      methinks we have

      ONE ……………more……………high to be made…”th”…….

      • luri January 31, 2018, 8:58 pm

        ……………………..”as if”……………………………………!

      • Verne Carty January 31, 2018, 9:43 pm

        No doubt many traders jumped on the end of session “reversal”. I didn’t “buy” it…. way too cute!! 😉

        • luri February 1, 2018, 3:27 am


          morning ES update……..

          looks to me………………like clear skies, with a side order of sweet onion rings………….

          • Verne Carty February 1, 2018, 6:06 am

            With a nice sprinkling of Tumeric, thank you!

          • luri February 1, 2018, 6:58 am

            command………..we have “ignition”……………… 5…..4…3…2….


  • luri February 1, 2018, 7:07 am

    so , a back of the napkin type calculation has us break 2800 to keep this whole 5 wave – W1….in the running.

    why do i say this?……………. the channel would look “odd” if we had “only” one touch of the down channel [the channel emanating from the top]….. only “one” touch…..on the w1,w3,w5 side of this same channel………on the other side we have w2 and w4 touching………………

    soooooooooooooooooooooo…………. thoughts, arguments, discussion??

    then what are you hangin’ around here for??…. huh! :-))

  • luri February 1, 2018, 7:15 am

    potentials – ONLY…………..”CAPISCE”!!!!!!

  • luri February 1, 2018, 8:02 am

    yeeessssss maaaa……. w5 can count impulse……………………….
    yesssssssssss maa…………………………… extrapolated using my fib ruler…….
    yesssssssssssssss mom……………………….. i brushed my teeth
    yesssssssssssssssssss – mother……………………. i cleaned behind my “f’ng” ears

  • luri February 1, 2018, 12:28 pm


    what th??????? crickets…………….hmmm………….

    was it an ELE??? [extinction level event]……………….you mean i am the …..ONLY….
    luri left to roam this fine planet…………BY MYSELF!!!!! waaaaahoooooooo!!!!! oh yeah……………………………

    • Verne Carty February 1, 2018, 2:29 pm

      Well…Mr. Market has spent the last few days severely spanking the BTFDers. Let”s see if we now get a bona fide plunge that really makes em squirm! Hyuk!

  • Liz H February 1, 2018, 2:31 pm

    Luri, the fractal is still on.
    A swing low possible tomorrow end of day but if it becomes another chop day then my bias is 6th, 7th or 12th. From a swing trading point of view, there is nothing attractive to buy akin to the Dec. 1 low last year. While my hypothesis are the dates above as possible short-term double bottom lows, I think I’ll wait mid-March.

  • luri February 1, 2018, 3:50 pm


    so, we continue to see price consolidation at the bottom of range of the recent price drop.

    this is a “continuation” behavior, meaning that prices are looking for a way to move lower……….. we have seen this price consolidation behavior “ad naseum”…….at the top of the range, on the uptrend.

    • Verne Carty February 2, 2018, 5:51 am

      Yep. I love these triangle formations as they are great bread and butter trades…very predictable! 🙂

  • Joe Longwill February 1, 2018, 8:34 pm

    I’m off of west coast heading to Honolulu .
    12 days of for the most part no data.
    Left my hedges in place and have not gotten short .
    I favor that a top is in place and for now I have a few mixed thoughts.
    A high to low would have been ideal from mid jan new moon
    Into this up coming Feb 15 solar eclipse. That mid jan new moon though
    Was not a high. Now we are coming out of another cycle high
    Which was jan 26- Feb 2. I am not confidant on this last cycle period
    And I have been out of touch to make any solid bearish case .
    The next time period becomes early March to April 4 th .
    Early March to April 4 should be a 1 way directional move
    That is fairly to very strong .
    I do not have a 10 day range to go off of , I don’t see a weekly
    Reversal as of yet . I don’t know or have a solid wave count to
    Go off of .
    I’ll enjoy some sunshine in about 3 days as we head further offshore .
    Looks like Valentine’s day in Honolulu .
    Bitcoin , utilities , interest rates, us dollar index have much more
    In common with the cycles I’m following yet the Dow as much as
    I have a bearish bias I cannot at this point commit to an aggressive
    Bearish stance .
    Feb 15 is the most likely turn followed by March 1 and followed by
    April 4.
    Good luck everyone 🙂

  • luri February 2, 2018, 2:31 am


    ahhh, liz – it looks like your fractals are solid as per the chart…..

    we may be in the small w5 completing today…..

  • luri February 2, 2018, 4:55 am

    in a world of caramel corn, and cotton candy ………..i ask the question, that must never be “asked”…………………… why oh why??? is this impossible??

    is this a cycle sized C wave or is it a mouse?

    • luri February 2, 2018, 5:05 am

      ask yourself this question………………….

      this FBI memo release scheduled for today – in a world where truth bombs are being detonated………………

      what better way to distract from the full impact of this memo “release” – than a good ole fashioned mini crash of the markets???

      so is the above chart really so “unthinkable?”

  • luri February 2, 2018, 8:00 am

    OK……………..WAKE UP Y’ALL………………………

    THIS IS ALL ………….TOO – TOO………….TO ORDERLY, TO MANAGED………….WHERE THE IS THE FEAR!!!!!!!!!! ………………………………….. I WANT TO…………….”SMELL”……….THE FEAR!……………


    • Verne Carty February 2, 2018, 8:37 am

      Don’t worry…true fear is a’comin’…in the form of Diamond futures down 2000 points. Let’s see ’em BTFD THAT!! 🙂

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